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		<title>the highline</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chatting with a friend last night, I realized how much I&#8217;ve accomplished this year. While there was some time wasted in ways I should have known better, all in all, I got a lot done. Even better, I&#8217;ve seen how strong, supportive and beautiful my friends are. My students were as amazing and inspiring as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://veneratedcoconut.com/files/2011/12/highline-nyc.jpg" rel="lightbox[4289]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-4302" title="highline-nyc" src="http://veneratedcoconut.com/files/2011/12/highline-nyc.jpg" alt="" width="398" height="600" /></a>Chatting with a friend last night, I realized how much I&#8217;ve accomplished this year. While there was some time wasted in ways I should have known better, all in all, I got a lot done. Even better, I&#8217;ve seen how strong, supportive and beautiful my friends are. My students were as amazing and inspiring as ever, and I&#8217;m floored by the majority&#8217;s willingness to stand up for what&#8217;s right, and stand up for each other. Talking to Bij last week about which neighbor would sell you out if the Germans came knocking, we agreed one should never be surprised. Yet this fall, I&#8217;ve been impressed by people&#8217;s willingness to come together and protect each other.</p>
<p>While there are a few bad eggs only out for their own interests (1%), they&#8217;re easy to spot, and easy to avoid. The miserable little man who claims everyone else is an idiot, whose idea of conversation is talking at people who can&#8217;t escape, the disingenuous woman with painted-on smile and seething eyes, scratching madly at everyone, terrified her incompetence will be caught out—they deserve our sympathy, if not our time. There are so many amazing, loving people out there, it&#8217;s quite easy not to dwell on these creatures. Don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Just as I started to write, M sent me a <a title="Thomas L. Friedman: Help Wanted" href="http://mobile.nytimes.com/article;jsessionid=369DBE178D6113E02BE2A714CEA9CC31.w6?a=881614&amp;single=1&amp;f=28" target="_blank">link to a Friedman column</a>. Though I think Friedman&#8217;s a wan<span style="color: #000000;">ker (&#8220;Where does a guy whose family bulldozed 2.1 million square feet of pristine Hawaiian wilderness to put a Gap, an Old Navy, a Sears, an Abercrombie and even a motherfucking Foot Locker in paradise get off preaching to the rest of us about the need for a &#8216;Green Revolution&#8217;?&#8221;—<a title="Flat N All That MATT TAIBBI takes on porn-stached New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman’s greenish ways." href="http://www.nypress.com/article-19271-flat-n-all-that.html" target="_blank">Matt Taibii</a>), I did like this line: </span></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The days of leading countries or companies via a one-way conversation are over,&#8221; says Dov Seidman, the CEO of LRN and author of the book <em>How</em>. &#8220;The old system of &#8216;command and control&#8217; &#8211; using carrots and sticks &#8211; to exert power over people is fast being replaced by &#8216;connect and collaborate&#8217; &#8211; to generate power through people.&#8221; Leaders and managers cannot just impose their will, adds Seidman. &#8220;Now you have to have a two-way conversation that connects deeply with your citizens or customers or employees.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, I guess it&#8217;s all a Dov Seidman quote. That&#8217;s why. Yes, connect and collaborate. Finally, it&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>Something else I&#8217;ve always known but truly learned this year: Avoid people who put you down, want to keep you down, take you for granted, treat you poorly, or are generally negative or selfish. Even if they are funny. Even if you&#8217;re crazy attached. You know, deeply, that it will affect you. It rubs off and the end result is never pretty. Stand up for yourself, your friends, and your beliefs. Value yourself, your talents, your work, your community, and others will, too. It&#8217;s cliche and we hear it often, but<em> live</em> it. You&#8217;ll be in good company.</p>
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		<title>i want my (love stories)</title>
		<link>http://veneratedcoconut.com/2011/11/10/i-want-my-love-stories/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 02:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh shut up. Whatever. So I wanted to write them in August but I&#8217;m still getting to the stories, still waxing on about this addiction-to-lust meme, and not even consistently. You should be used to that by now. I&#8217;ve been wanting to write the next bit forever, but this, then that, then that, and more that came up and [...]]]></description>
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<p>Oh shut up. Whatever. So I wanted to write them in August but I&#8217;m still getting to the stories, still waxing on about this addiction-to-lust meme, and not even consistently. You should be used to that by now. I&#8217;ve been wanting to write the next bit forever, but this, then that, then<em> that</em>, and <em>more that</em> came up and in the course if it, changed what I have to say.</p>
<p>The fabulous news is that I&#8217;m almost up to date with my <a title="Vcocco Archives" href="http://www.flickr.com/people/vcoco/" target="_blank">digital photo archives</a>, a project I started in January of 2009. I&#8217;ve selected from over 20,000 photos, tagged over 10,000, and put over 5,000 online. I&#8217;ve finally reached this summer in the archives, and once I&#8217;m through the UK pics, I&#8217;ll be up to date. And I only need <a href="http://kirtiklis.com/2009/01/13/birthday-collection/">four more birthdays</a> to have all 366.</p>
<p>I am happily shocked that things are coming together. Ten years ago I was troubled by the fact that my photos seemed to tell one story, and my words another. Though I was tour guiding abroad, where you&#8217;d think it&#8217;d be pretty easy to illustrate a story with travel snaps, my photos didn&#8217;t mesh with my writing. They were saying different things. Shortly after, my <a href="http://www.lizaplusayan.com/" target="_blank">acupuncturist</a> told me that my yin and my yang were not in sync. In other words, my masculine and feminine energies? &#8220;Not on speaking terms,&#8221; he said. They didn&#8217;t come together. Not a subtle metaphor, is it. While masculine and feminine dichotomy seems a bit cliché, there is truth to it. But more than that, we have so many identities and stories within. How do they mesh? Do they harmonize? Fight? Or not even communicate?  Maybe that is (they are) part of what inspired me to organize my photos into a tagged archive, so that I can pull up a shot that illustrates my words, and bring together different parts of my life and self. Even the little <a href="http://atastypixel.com/blog/wordpress/plugins/flickrpress/" target="_blank">flickr plugin</a> (in the column at right, which pulls from the archive) charms me with its collection of different moments in my life, different parts of me, all true and sharp and real, thrown together at once.</p>
<p>My original intent with the love stories was to share some happy tales I came across when I visited the UK in August. The last few posts introducing the topic were more about post-modern confusion between lust and love than the successful romance and love that these stories convey, but they brought up some interesting conversations.</p>
<p>I went to see Sam&#8217;s spectacular play last week at <a href="http://www.arsnovanyc.com/" target="_blank">Ars Nova</a>. It made me laugh. And it made me wonder if some of the pretty hilarious dating stories I have from the last few years shouldn&#8217;t be shared. Sam advised, &#8220;I think you should definitely write the narcissism-&amp;-modern-lust stories; so many people would relate, and appreciate, and it would be a Great Good to the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, maybe, Sam. A Great Good indeed (what more love and encouragement can a girl ask for, right?) But I&#8217;m not sure if I want to dwell in them. You know, the <em>negativity</em>. Nor I do want to jinx something so lovely and nice and new that I don&#8217;t dare mention it. Nor do I like the profound irritation of knowing that people read what they want to read—even though the text is write there in front of them for reference. Some just see what they want to see and make it all about themselves instead of stopping for three minutes and considering what another has to say. Generally annoying, sure, but even more aggravating when it comes to matters of the heart. But, unlike the corporate-minded, I will not punish the majority for the transgressions of the few. At least, if I don&#8217;t write the narcissism-&amp;-modern-lust stories, it won&#8217;t be for that reason. I promise.</p>
<p>A final note: I&#8217;m moving my site over to another server, so it might be up and down in the coming weeks as I fix stuff. Just come back later if you can&#8217;t get through.</p>
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		<title>love and originality</title>
		<link>http://veneratedcoconut.com/2011/10/26/love-and-originality/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, where were we? Ah yes, our culture&#8217;s addiction to romantic love. Our religious commitment to the fantasy, and where it gets us. Read the last post if you&#8217;ve no idea what I&#8217;m talking about. To summarize and continue, I&#8217;ll go back to Judith Simmer-Brown: “There is such a theological commitment to romance that we [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/10/shally-beach-wa.jpg" rel="lightbox[4153]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-4167" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/10/shally-beach-wa.jpg" alt="" width="354" height="531" /></a>So, where were we? Ah yes, our culture&#8217;s addiction to romantic love. Our religious commitment to the fantasy, and where it gets us. Read the <a title="theological commitment to romance" href="http://kirtiklis.com/2011/10/16/love-notes/" target="_blank">last post</a> if you&#8217;ve no idea what I&#8217;m talking about. To summarize and continue, I&#8217;ll go back to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/157062920X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=vennocdicoc-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=157062920X"target="_blank">Judith Simmer-Brown</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=vennocdicoc-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=157062920X" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />: “There is such a theological commitment to romance that we will dump someone in a second if they challenge our fantasy.”</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s the alternative? It&#8217;s infinitely harder than the next bauble in your match.com lineup, but infinitely more creative. You step out of the fantasy of romantic love and have a real relationship with your beloved—through your brokenheartedness. That&#8217;s right. You reach out through your vulnerability and meet your beloved on real terms. This is Simmer-Brown paraphrased, but it&#8217;s exactly my attitude toward love. For better or worse, though I adore romance, I have little trust in it. Maybe it&#8217;s because of loss early on my life, but I need my beloved to see the whole me and love her. With romantic love, especially the sort that grows too fast, I don&#8217;t feel seen at all. It feels inflated and unreal. Unsurprisingly, I&#8217;m not sure how my mean, ugly and needy parts will be tolerated. But there&#8217;s also an uneasy feeling that my sweet, beautiful, strong, and nurturing parts aren&#8217;t seen either. Instead, as the object of romantic infatuation, I just feel like a giant screen for another&#8217;s projection. It&#8217;s not a great feeling at all, though sure, the attention and roses sure are nice.</p>
<p>Simmer-Brown&#8217;s words were a relief to me because I ache for romantic love to crack open, for the real work and love to begin. Yes, it&#8217;s true I&#8217;ve tried to force it in the past. Not to hurt or to end the relationship, but to get into the creative work and real love of getting to know the beloved. It&#8217;s not for the faint of heart.</p>
<p>As <a title="Chögyam Trungpa " href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%B6gyam_Trungpa" target="_blank">Chögyam Trungpa</a>, Simmer-Brown&#8217;s teacher, said (my paraphrase), &#8220;There&#8217;s not a lot of originality or creativity in the romantic story. Romantic love is a fantasy. Real relationships are infinitely more interesting.&#8221;</p>
<p>My word. Yes. I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;m good at it. Not at all. In one relationship, my boyfriend complained I wasn&#8217;t going deep enough with him, sharing enough with him, and he needed that. &#8220;What did all my meditation and yoga give me, if not this?&#8221; he demanded. I didn&#8217;t tell him, because I couldn&#8217;t, that I was avoiding this depth, that I couldn&#8217;t share it, because if I was true to it (myself) I would end the relationship immediately. I needed a few more months to honor it, as the unhealthy attachment was strong. There were things I liked about the relationship even though it wasn&#8217;t meeting me on the deep level I wanted and needed. So, I get it. It&#8217;s hard. And I&#8217;m far from perfect myself.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;We have a fear of facing ourselves. That is the obstacle. Experiencing the innermost core of our existence is very embarrassing to a lot of people. A lot of people turn to something that they hope will liberate them without their having to face themselves. That is impossible. We can&#8217;t do that. We have to be honest with ourselves. We have to see our gut, our excrement, our most undesirable parts. We have to see them. That is the foundation of warriorship, basically speaking. Whatever is there, we have to face it, we have to look at it, study it, work with it and practice meditation with it.&#8221;  —<a title="Chögyam Trungpa " href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%B6gyam_Trungpa" target="_blank">Chögyam Trungpa</a></em></p>
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		<title>theological commitment to romance</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, the love stories. I&#8217;ve been stalling. Yeah, I&#8217;ve been busy. So what. Who isn&#8217;t? You don&#8217;t care. But I was also stuck in an awful rut. It finally shifted last week, around the 5th, when the sun came out. I hit pretty low ground in the days before, and happily it slammed me awake. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/10/dating-coach.jpg" rel="lightbox[4034]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-4036" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/10/dating-coach.jpg" alt="" width="375" height="500" /></a>So, the <a title="love stories" href="http://kirtiklis.com/2011/09/28/love-stories/">love stories</a>. I&#8217;ve been stalling. Yeah, I&#8217;ve been busy. So what. Who isn&#8217;t? You don&#8217;t care. But I was also stuck in an awful rut. It finally shifted last week, around the 5th, when the sun came out. I hit pretty low ground in the days before, and happily it slammed me awake.</p>
<p>Then I read a good book. This helped, too. I&#8217;ve been wavering in my yoga practice since I came back from the UK. I&#8217;ve been sitting (seated mediation) and my 6am ashtanga practice has been ignored for a more gentle home practice. I feel guilty about that, but it also feels like what I need. Maybe. (Ashtangis will chalk it up to resistance.)</p>
<p>When I am uncertain about where I am, I try to do a meditation retreat. A week or two is best, but a weekend is better than nothing. It connects me to the part of myself that isn&#8217;t so much fear or ego and clarifies my situation. This is, at its core, what meditation is for me. It&#8217;s not about blissing out or enlightenment, it&#8217;s about knowing the difference between the bullshit stories that whirl around my head, the patterns I like to trap myself in, and my truth. I looked for something this weekend, but nothing really seemed appropriate and hell, I have a lot of work to do.</p>
<p>Then, out of the blue, Z asked me if I wanted to do some meditation this weekend. In our eight years, we&#8217;ve never meditated together, so I took it as a must-do (you know, a <em>sign</em>). I suggested a talk I&#8217;d come across by <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/157062920X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=vennocdicoc-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=157062920X"target="_blank">Judith Simmer-Brown</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=vennocdicoc-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=157062920X" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> at the <a title="Shambhala Meditation Center Of New York" href="http://ny.shambhala.org/" target="_blank">Shambhala Center</a>.</p>
<p>We went. <a title="Romantic Fantasy, Everyday Disappointment" href="http://ny.shambhala.org/program_details.php?id=76792&amp;cid=202" target="_blank">The talk</a> was excellent, funny, and validated everything I believe about modern love, and what can pass for it. It validated my take on my love affairs of the last few years (love being a loosely used term, as we know) and grounded me in where I am, and what I need now. Simmer-Brown also gave words and a framework to the point of all this, these <a title="love stories" href="http://kirtiklis.com/2011/09/28/love-stories/">love stories</a> I want to tell. It was inchoate before, but now they&#8217;re screaming, ready to be told. Love Notes, the post title, was inspired by the few notes I scribbled down when I wanted to remember JSBs words.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about going past the fantasy of romantic love. Blind addiction to imagined love is nothing less than the true religion of America (or pseudo-religion, as Simmer-Brown says. Semantics depend on how much you believe religion has to offer). Americans seek romantic love the way humans have traditionally sought God. It&#8217;s not just a distraction, it&#8217;s a deluded myth that romantic love with &#8220;the one&#8221; will solve all one&#8217;s problems. &#8220;There is such a theological commitment to romance that we will dump someone in a second if they challenge our fantasy,&#8221; says Simmer-Brown.</p>
<p>Indeed we will. With internet sirens beckoning, as soon as the facade cracks and the person you projected perfection upon turns out to be human, why face your own pain and that of your ersatz beloved when some guy or gal advertising (a) huge ____________ (insert your fancy) comes poking? My gawd, s/he knows the word for your genitals in your mother tongue, and will impress you with it before you even meet. Mmm, titillating. Now this? This will be <em>easy.</em></p>
<p>Not refined, not subtle, no. Not even attractive, really. But that isn&#8217;t part of this game. We can ignore the obvious for now and focus on ease and fantasy. Why face pain and humanity when cranked-up delusion comes calorie-free?</p>
<p>Why? (If you&#8217;re really asking, you aren&#8217;t going to hear me anyway.) Because as per usual, you get what you pay for.</p>
<p>And so it goes. Another one bites the dust. Next time, some thoughts on real love, and some gorgeous stories for illustration.</p>
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		<title>love stories</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My gawd, I&#8217;m using an advert in the tube to illustrate &#8220;love stories.&#8221; Is that what it&#8217;s come to? No, not at all. I do like photos in subways and metros, and if I used photos of couples that I visited while in the UK, I&#8217;m sure they would not be pleased, as I aim [...]]]></description>
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<p>My gawd, I&#8217;m using an advert in the tube to illustrate &#8220;love stories.&#8221; Is that what it&#8217;s come to?</p>
<p>No, not at all. I do like photos in subways and metros, and if I used photos of couples that I visited while in the UK, I&#8217;m sure they would not be pleased, as I aim to tell their stories. Lots of good love stories on this trip. And though my city gets a bad rap when it comes to love (&#8220;men there treat women as if they&#8217;re mobile phones, always looking for the next toy, never appreciating what they have in front of them&#8221;), while I was away, one friend eloped and another engaged. Not that matrimony and love are synonymous, but that these women have not been mistaken for androids by the men that love them (New Yorkers all). See? You don&#8217;t have to cross the pond. ;)</p>
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		<title>holding hands</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe this is what happened with Guka and me (reference to a previous post). On several occasions, I said more than she was comfortable with, and we lost respect for each other because of it. I know I disappointed her when I didn&#8217;t like Almaty. When I kept one foot in Bukhara during my visit. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em></em><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/kazakh_2004-08-05_almaty_001.jpg" rel="lightbox[3820]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-3865" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/kazakh_2004-08-05_almaty_001.jpg" alt="" width="375" height="249" /></a>Maybe this is what happened with Guka and me (reference to a <a title="a pagan, an indian, and a bukharan-ashkenaz russian walk" href="http://kirtiklis.com/2011/07/23/a-pagan-an-indian-and-a-bukharan-ashkenaz-russian-walk-into/" target="_blank">previous post</a>). On several occasions, I said more than she was comfortable with, and we lost respect for each other because of it. I know I disappointed her when I didn&#8217;t like Almaty. When I kept one foot in <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vcoco/sets/72157626701855395/" target="_blank">Bukhara</a> during my visit. I tried, but Almaty is a very Soviet city (Russians call it Alma-Ata) infused with new oil money. It is what it is. It certainly wasn&#8217;t her.</p>
<p>But what happened with Guka is not the point. For years, I&#8217;ve wanted to explain something that happened there, when we went hiking in the mountains outside Almaty with a group of her friends. I&#8217;m not sure how many creative people feel this way, but I have so many photos sitting waiting to be edited and <em>seen,</em> so many stories unwritten, that I feel in some way I can&#8217;t move on creatively until they are tended. It makes me apprehensive. Apprehensive about jumping into more, though of course I have. Though in that, too, something feels unresolved, unworked through, unseen. Something I&#8217;ve wanted to process has been ignored.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/kazakh_2004-08-08_chimbulak_008.jpg" rel="lightbox[3820]"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3861" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/kazakh_2004-08-08_chimbulak_008.jpg" alt="" width="249" height="375" /></a>And so, in February of 2009, I began to go through 100s of old CDs full of digital photos. I love to clean, organize, and get rid of things (you don&#8217;t? Call me). I organized them down to a few DVDs, then decided to send off all my negs and chromes to India to be scanned. This I documented closely, as it was an endeavor. (It&#8217;s archived in the <a href="http://kirtiklis.com/category/photography/scancafe-photography/page/4/" target="_blank">scancafe</a> category.) When I got them back, I started archiving and tagging them in <a href="http://success.adobe.com/en/na/sem/products/lightroom.html?kw=p&amp;sdid=FIDPP&amp;skwcid=TC%7C22181%7Clightroom%7C%7CS%7Cb%7C6280387702" target="_blank">Lightrooom</a>. It was amazing, cathartic, and tedious as hell. I also started uploading selects to Flickr, so they can be <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vcoco/" target="_blank">viewed</a>.</p>
<p>Why? To make them conscious. So I know what&#8217;s there. Some of those images are printed. Most of them sit in archival boxes. Many are not, particularly the chromes. They are all but impossible to look at. So, I had them scanned. Why scan 7,000 old photos? So I know what&#8217;s there. And so others can see them if they desire. So they don&#8217;t sit in boxes in the back of my mind, like stories untold.</p>
<p>So finally, two and a half years later, I am uploading the 2004 selects to flickr. I will shut up, sit down, and finally write the story about that day at <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vcoco/sets/72157627112351149/" target="_blank">Chimbulak</a>. Even though in words, it seems like nothing.</p>
<p>Chimbulak is a ski resort outside Almaty in the Tien Shan Mountains. We went there in the August for a hike and some fresh air. There were eight of us. It was an easy hike, but we were all at different levels, and two were kids. About half way to the top, at the base of the ski lift, the Soviet-built, terrifyingly-rickety ski lift, there was a resort where we stopped for lunch and some liquid courage (vodka). It was typical Russian fare. I enjoyed myself. We laughed and had fun.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/kazakh_2004-08-08_chimbulak_067.jpg" rel="lightbox[3820]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-3863" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/kazakh_2004-08-08_chimbulak_067.jpg" alt="" width="375" height="249" /></a>After the lift was a short climb. It wasn&#8217;t difficult, but we&#8217;d had plenty of vodka and were soon tired, but we pushed on. As we neared the top, we did something I&#8217;ve never seen in my years of hiking. Something Americans would never do. We linked hands. It wasn&#8217;t unusual to them in the least. We held hands and helped each other up the rest of the mountain. To the stubbornly independent American, it seemed not only strange, but not that helpful.</p>
<p>But it was. Even if you were toward the top of the chain, doing most of the work, the linking woke us up and brought us together. The last bit of the hike though the clouds was easy, coming together as one.</p>
<p>As we did this, my thoughts went, &#8220;What are you doing? That&#8217;s silly. This will impede everyone. What the hell? Keep your mouth shut. You are a guest here. Wait. Wait. How strange. This is nice. I&#8217;m being pulled, gently. I&#8217;m gently pulling. We are helping each other, and we are lighter, and faster, and efficient.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/kazakh_2004-08-08_chimbulak_112.jpg" rel="lightbox[3820]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3860 alignright" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/kazakh_2004-08-08_chimbulak_112.jpg" alt="" width="375" height="249" /></a>Nevermind that Guka wouldn&#8217;t take my hand.</p>
<p>It was not the way I was used to, but it worked. Magically. And with that realization, it hit me just how different Kazakh, and Central Asian, culture is. Yes, of course I knew it, understood it conceptually. But before this, I didn&#8217;t feel it or understand it on a cellular level. I didn&#8217;t feel it to be true. I just knew it intellectually.</p>
<p>And perhaps this seems simple, or obvious, or like nothing, but after fifteen years of foreign travel, I finally truly understood how some cultures rely on each other much more intrinsically than we do in the U.S. We frown up on it here, to the point that so many people are alienated and alone, with no idea how to truly connect to another person. We are afraid it means we are needy or weak, or will be trapped in some sort of needy abyss (ours or another&#8217;s). But it doesn&#8217;t mean any of this.</p>
<p>At the top, we sprawled out in the grass for a rest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>To see all the photos from the day at Chimbulak, go to <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vcoco/sets/72157627112351149/" target="_blank">flickr</a>.</p>
<p><em>We don&#8217;t really go that far into other people, even when we think we do. We hardly ever go in and bring them out. We just stand at the jaws of the cave, and strike a match, and quickly ask if anybody&#8217;s there.</em>    ~Martin Amis</p>
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		<title>a pagan, an indian, and a bukharan-ashkenaz russian walk</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wisdom is about seeking truth whether or not the seeker himself is vindicated or comforted by the unveiling of that truth. This desire to know—even if some knowledge is highly uncomfortable—is what makes the quest for wisdom so courageous and challenging.   ~Ethan Nichtern Where&#8217;d I leave off? Danchik? Old friends? Yes. There. Spending the week with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Wisdom is about seeking truth whether or not the seeker himself is vindicated or comforted by the unveiling of that truth. This desire to know—even if some knowledge is highly uncomfortable—is what makes the quest for wisdom so courageous and challenging. </em><em>  ~<a href="http://www.theidproject.org/about/teachers" target="_blank">Ethan Nichtern</a></em></p>
<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/moscow_1990-03_016.jpg" rel="lightbox[3760]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-3771" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/moscow_1990-03_016.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="294" /></a>Where&#8217;d I <a title="finally there" href="http://kirtiklis.com/2011/07/20/finally-there/" target="_blank">leave off?</a> Danchik? Old friends? Yes. There.</p>
<p>Spending the week with Georgie, okay, sorry, George. He prefers George. Not Gumby, Gum, Gumshoe, Jorge (he&#8217;s now a prof of spanish literature, though he got the nickname in HS), Georgie, or any other of the nicknames he acquired over the years. Simply George, like his dad.</p>
<p>After spending the week with George, and Danchik the weekend before, I realize that old friendships both comfort and confine.</p>
<p>I met George when we were 8 years old. I remember when I first saw him, a very tall Indian boy at his locker about 10 up from mine. He was looking down, adjusting his books. For the next ten years we were in the same classes, because kids in Ohio who can read and add all get schooled in a room together, to learn things like cursive writing and long division. We were a small group.</p>
<p>George gave me my first book on Buddhism when we were twelve, though he&#8217;s a Malayali Catholic, and was offended when I thought that his family had converted from Hinduism (I was twelve, okay?). &#8220;My people have been Catholic 1500 years longer than yours, you pagan!&#8221; he yelled, referring to Lithuania&#8217;s hold on paganism long past any other nation in Europe.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/mexico_1996-05_oaxaca_006.jpg" rel="lightbox[3760]"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3791" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/mexico_1996-05_oaxaca_006.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="292" /></a>Fair enough.</p>
<p>So, we have a history. We&#8217;ve known each other a long time. He knows my family, and I know his. And yes, maybe he planted a spiritual seed back when I was a diehard pre-teen atheist. Maybe.</p>
<p>This is lovely and comfortable. But it&#8217;s also limiting. Not entirely, but George still sees me the way he did when we were eight. Or at least thirteen. Some of his attitudes toward me don&#8217;t reflect the person I am now, but who I was. And George knew me during some difficult times, when I was just trying my best to be tough and get through it all. I&#8217;m no longer a guarded, highly-protected teenage hardass. But because this is what he expects of me, part of me slides back and gives it to him. Because it&#8217;s familiar and comfortable, and because we are old friends.</p>
<p>Likewise, my ideas about him are probably outdated, too.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a statement about George, but about people and relationship. George is one of the sweetest, kindest people I know. And frankly, these are the most difficult people to be with, because when I&#8217;m grumpy or I&#8217;m being an ass, there&#8217;s no excuse. It&#8217;s not because he&#8217;s selfish or mean. It&#8217;s because I am grumpy or being an ass. And that&#8217;s not easy to own. Usually, I have plenty of targets worthy of the projection. Haha.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/danchiks-room-art.jpg" rel="lightbox[3760]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-3796" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/danchiks-room-art.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="305" /></a>And so it is with Danchik. We go back ten years. Long enough. Danchik has very different ideas about me than George, and while I do think he&#8217;s seen me change over the years, his ideas are still his ideas. Recently, we were chatting about his old friend Katya, about her recent relationships. I asked him what happened and he said, &#8220;What happened? She kirtiklised him! That&#8217;s what happened.&#8221; We both had a good laugh.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, our 12-year-old friend Pasha, who doesn&#8217;t know much English, said (in Russian): &#8220;What did she do? What is kirtiklised him? What does this mean?&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no chance I will tell you.</p>
<p>Danchik and I laughed harder and Danchik said, <em>&#8220;Molodetz!&#8221; </em>which means, loosely, &#8220;clever boy,&#8221; or &#8220;well done.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was funny. But it speaks to Danchik&#8217;s ideas about me. They aren&#8217;t invalid, but they are fossilized. I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s interested in seeing who I am past his ideas of me, which, granted, we spent a fair amount of time building up. In good ways, and bad.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/newyork_2008-06_summer_002.jpg" rel="lightbox[3760]"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3797" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/newyork_2008-06_summer_002.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="299" /></a>It&#8217;s easier to see and perpetuate this with friends I don&#8217;t see all the time, so my ideas about them, and projections on them, aren&#8217;t challenged. Friends I see often grow along with me. As I fumble along, they challenge me to stay real, and to remember exactly what that means. It&#8217;s easy to forget. Or, to find it too hard, and seek distraction. George and Danchik keep me in line in their own way. Otherwise I&#8217;d have dumped them. Or they&#8217;d have dumped me. I&#8217;m hard to take, really, as I have no patience for those who <a title="because i said it before" href="http://www.kirtiklis.com/vitya/vitya1.html" target="_blank">run in bright-fast circles</a> to numb the pain of their existence, full force against a second&#8217;s rest to actually face themselves. Once I see a person&#8217;s bullshit and she admits to no interest in facing it, I lose respect. Perhaps worse, I&#8217;m bored. I&#8217;ve learned to keep my mouth shut over the years, at least a little bit, but I don&#8217;t stick around and watch the cycle perpetuate. They seem cowardly. Or average. Or boring.</p>
<p><em>Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.<br />
~Albert Einstein</em></p>
<p>I thought it was <em>&#8220;Stupidity: doing the same thing&#8230;&#8221; </em>but I&#8217;ll take insanity, too.</p>
<p><em>Wisdom is about seeking truth whether or not the seeker himself is vindicated or comforted by the unveiling of that truth. This desire to know</em>—<em>even if some knowledge is highly uncomfortable</em>—<em>is what makes the quest for wisdom so courageous and challenging.<br />
~Ethan Nichtern</em></p>
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		<title>finally there</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This feels like a pivotal moment. I feel raw. I have always had my fingers in too many pots, and at this moment they are coming together, if only a little bit and in a symbolic way. I&#8217;m finally there. I&#8217;ve finally reached August 8, 2004 in the archives (representative photo at left), which was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/1aug8-04.jpg" rel="lightbox[3721]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-3739" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/1aug8-04.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="451" /></a>This feels like a pivotal moment. I feel raw. I have always had my fingers in too many pots, and at this moment they are coming together, if only a little bit and in a symbolic way. I&#8217;m finally there. I&#8217;ve finally reached <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vcoco/sets/72157627112351149/" target="_blank">August 8, 2004</a> in the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vcoco/" target="_blank">archives</a> (representative photo at left), which was a big day in my life, one I&#8217;ve intended to write about for seven years. I mention it once in awhile because it has much to do with my understanding of people and life. I&#8217;m not sure I can explain it, so I keep putting it off.</p>
<p>I got here, to the eighth, the day my beautiful new computer arrived, so gorgeous I cannot believe it. So these photos will not be edited between crashes of my six-year old macbook, which slowed me down tremendously. I started editing the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vcoco/sets/72157627108139651/" target="_blank">Center Kenes photos</a> this morning. And now I&#8217;m there.</p>
<p>The writing and editing is also difficult because it involves Guka. Our friendship began to unravel during this trip, and we were already tense. Maybe that partly inspired my little revelation about humanity and relationship, but it&#8217;s still painful.</p>
<p>And my old friend left today. He was my houseguest for a week and a total gentleman. I&#8217;m easily annoyed, especially with people in my space, and he didn&#8217;t disturb me a bit. I loved having him. Largely because I felt appreciated and supported. His timing was perfect.</p>
<p>But now I am sad. Left to sink into my melancholy a bit, which isn&#8217;t the worst thing in the world. I&#8217;ve been thinking about old friendships, I guess because I&#8217;ve been seeing old friends. I tried to write about Danchik last week, after he (and Pasha, picture below) entertained me through a rough spot one Sunday at Coney, way out west where the beach is decent. But I&#8217;m not sure I can explain our relationship, either. He breaks a lot of rules as far as not being an ass goes. But he owns up to it totally, doesn&#8217;t pretend to be otherwise, and at the end of the day, he&#8217;s there for me. (I wouldn&#8217;t tell him that though. He&#8217;d be annoyed.) This is more than I can say for most people. People who pretend to be good or talk a nice game around it, but aren&#8217;t there when the going gets difficult. For a day.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/newyork_2011-01_cellsnaps_073.jpg" rel="lightbox[3721]"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3741" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/07/newyork_2011-01_cellsnaps_073.jpg" alt="Danchik &amp; Pasha - July 10, 1011" width="450" height="338" /></a>Whatever &#8220;good&#8221; means.</p>
<p>So, I accept Danchik for who he is. He makes me laugh and takes me out of myself. He can be a jerk, and he knows it.</p>
<p>He went to Odessa last weekend to chase some girl. That will not have a happy ending, but it will be fun for a time, and that&#8217;s all the depth some people can muster. And that&#8217;s fine.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re honest.</p>
<p>Well, there. I wrote a bit about Danchik. I didn&#8217;t include the hard-to-explain stuff, the quintessentially Danchik stuff. His declaration that he keeps a beautiful-but-boring girl around he doesn&#8217;t much like because sometimes you just need some company, a pretty face. &#8220;I am an asshole. She is an idiot. What can you do?&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh dear.</p>
<p>But, as you see, he&#8217;s honest. Most people do this sort of thing, in one way or another, but they don&#8217;t admit it. And so start the problems.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not gotten to August 8th. Or to old friendships. Why they feel comfortable, but also confining. Perhaps I&#8217;ll be as prolific tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>climb down, yo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 00:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[~or~how to not be a wanker in your online approach &#8230; And so, The Global Hook-Up Party: How to have a sexytime-no-strings-attached-two-day-affair through couchsurfing. Or not. It is true that the last two posts were building up to this. Because even in my worst moods, my heartbroken moments, my deep despair, T&#8217;s words will pop [...]]]></description>
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<p>And so, <a href="http://kirtiklis.com/2011/05/23/a-global-hookup-party/" target="_blank">The Global Hook-Up Party</a>: How to have a sexytime-no-strings-attached-two-day-affair through couchsurfing. Or not. It is true that <a href="http://kirtiklis.com/2011/05/22/a-purpose-or-something/" target="_blank">the last two posts</a> were building up to this. Because even in my worst moods, my heartbroken moments, my deep despair, T&#8217;s words will pop into my mind, and I laugh. You will, too. That&#8217;s the point of all this. His pickup rewrite is simple, yet hilarious and amazing. My point is not to be schooly, as T has suggested. Though I can see how a guy might find it so.</p>
<p>A few weeks ago, I received this <a href="http://kirtiklis.com/2011/05/23/a-global-hookup-party/" target="_blank">couchsurfing</a> request (I cut a bit for length):</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><span style="color:#414d4c"><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/05/spero_crucible_365.jpg" rel="lightbox[3545]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-3581 alignright" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/05/spero_crucible_365.jpg?w=238&amp;h=300" alt="" width="238" height="300" /></a>Hello V. (or should I address you as Venerated Coconut?)</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><span style="color:#414d4c">The  cool morning breeze across my face as I ride my bike downhill¦ The  howling of jackals in the deserts of Eastern Oregon¦ Writing, the  sensuous movement of the pen upon paper, letters forming into words,  sentences and ideas¦ Playing as a football goalie, diving across  the goal to turn the ball away¦ Joining with others in peace and environmental groups, trying to  restore some balance and justice¦ The touch of a loved one&#8217;s hand¦ These  are some of the things that I love and that provide my life with joy  and light.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><span style="color:#414d4c">I will be in NYC [for two nights] and would love to meet you, and be hosted if possible&#8230;.I share your love of writing and art- the last show that  moved me deeply with its pain, love, war, suffering, and resistance was  by Nancy Spero at the Serpentine in London</span><br />
<a href="http://www.serpentinegallery.org/2010/09/nancy_spero_serpentine_gallery.html" target="_blank"><span style="color:#414d4c">www.serpentinegallery.org/2010/09/nancy_spero_serpentine_gallery.html</span></a></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><span style="color:#414d4c">and would like to hear of your other passions as well as share mine.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><span style="color:#414d4c">I  am&#8230;a university teacher  in the department. Writing and editing  essays and books about these subjects is also an important part of my  being. [One would think he'd take a moment to edit his correspondence. But evidently not so important.]</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><span style="color:#414d4c">If you have the time and inclination, let us meet for  coffee, an art show, a hike, a concert, a bike spin, prepare a meal  together, or whatever the spirits and our imaginations inspire.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><span style="color:#414d4c">[closing cut]</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><span style="color:#414d4c">My CS profile has no recent photo but I would be happy to send one (as an attachment I can only send it to a non CS address.)</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">Oh dear. No, I&#8217;m not interested in a photo of your 49-year-old self. Not at all. In fact, I&#8217;m grossed out. T and I have discussed fairly thoroughly the nature of couchsurfing, and this &#8220;request&#8221; does seem to land on his side of the argument (that of the global hookup party). I shared the request with him:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><strong>A (me):</strong> I got this from a couchsurfer. It&#8217;s so gross. What else is there to say? [see above]</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><strong>T: </strong> Lordy.<br />
It probably works most of the time.<br />
Wankers all.<br />
Say: &#8220;climb down, yo.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><strong>A: </strong>&#8220;I share your love of writing and art- the last show that  <strong>moved me deeply </strong>with its <strong>pain, love, war, suffering, and resistance</strong> was  by Nancy Spero at the Serpentine in London and would like to hear of<strong> your other passions</strong> as well as<strong> share</strong> mine.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px">is that like a mashup or mistaken cut and paste?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px">GAG.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px"><strong>T: </strong>i think it&#8217;s just barmy writing yo. few people are able to write articulately.</p>
<div style="padding-left:30px"><em>I recently saw a show by Nancy Spera at the Serpentine in London.   It covered all the bases - pain, love, war, suffering, resistence.  I  was honestly moved.  I would love to meet you and talk about our  respective interests.  I am sure we would find that we share a love of  writing and art.</em></div>
<div style="padding-left:30px"><em>&#8230;<br />
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<p style="padding-left:30px">Something like that.  It comes easy.  People are morons.  I don&#8217;t know why I can&#8217;t function in this world when it&#8217;s the rest of the world that is moronic.</p>
<p><strong>A:</strong> [Gales of laughter.] Agreed.</p>
<p>Most of my friends feel this way. It&#8217;s almost shocking how T&#8217;s quick edit instantly changes the para from swarmy to thoughtful. It&#8217;s really just not that hard. But giving the behavior of (many) guys both online and in person, it seems that it is. Why<em> is </em>that?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you didn&#8217;t read the last post, this post is a continuation. It can also stand alone. It&#8217;s the second in a series about online personality and relationship. I had a nice surprise today when I saw that Owl, a blog friend, had posted a favorite part of a favorite poem, T. S. Eliot&#8217;s Four [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/05/lithuania_07-05_-vilnius2_004.jpg" rel="lightbox[3503]"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-3537" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/05/lithuania_07-05_-vilnius2_004.jpg?w=300&amp;h=195" alt="" width="300" height="195" /></a>If you didn&#8217;t read the <a href="http://kirtiklis.com/2011/05/22/a-purpose-or-something/" target="_blank">last post</a>, this post is a continuation. It can also stand alone. It&#8217;s the second in a series about online personality and relationship.</p>
<p>I had a nice surprise today when I saw that Owl, a blog friend, had <a href="http://www.insideowl.com/article/wait-without-thought" target="_blank">posted a favorite part of a favorite poem</a>, T. S. Eliot&#8217;s <em>Four Quartets</em>. I posted almost <a title="2006 remembered" href="http://kirtiklis.com/2007/01/11/2006-remembered/" target="_blank">the same lines</a> years back. It&#8217;s one of the few books I own (everything else from the <a title="NYPL" href="http://nypl.org" target="_blank">NYPL</a>, thanks).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never met Owl, but we&#8217;re bloggers, over-thinkers (in recovery, maybe), and ashtangis. She warms my heart just as a personal friend would. I made my first website in 1995, and within that year made friends through the web. It&#8217;s not so strange to me. As with anything, I employ discretion.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/05/lithuania_07-05_-vilnius2_001.jpg" rel="lightbox[3503]"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-3542" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/05/lithuania_07-05_-vilnius2_001.jpg?w=194&amp;h=300" alt="" width="194" height="300" /></a>It was also in 1995, before my first solo international trip, that I joined an organization called <a title="Servas" href="http://joomla.servas.org/content/blogcategory/40/75/" target="_blank">Servas</a>. &#8220;Servas hosts offer hospitality to approved travellers of every ethnicity, creed and nationality. Through <a href="http://joomla.servas.org/content/blogcategory/40/75/" target="_blank">Servas</a>, travellers have opportunities to meet hosts, their families and friends, and join in their everyday life (excerpted from their website).&#8221; They weren&#8217;t online at the time. There was an application, a fee, and an interview. Once approved, I received a book of hosts for the countries where I was traveling. All this through the US mail. It was great fun. Through it, and a book called <em>People to People</em>, I met friends in Europe I have to this day, including a Lithuanian family I take for my own. (The photos are, top to botttom, of Dad Myrius in their living room, with his son Regimantas behind him, Mom Regina making <a href="http://www.visireceptai.lt/receptas/bulviniai_blynai.html" target="_blank">bulviniai blynai</a>, and Regimantas visiting NYC years later.)</p>
<p>Servas is online now, but it&#8217;s been eclipsed by <a href="http://couchsurfing.org" target="_blank">Couchsurfing.org</a>. Couchsurfing is for those interested in &#8220;Creating a Better World, One Couch At A Time.&#8221; Very few have heard of Servas, but most travelers and youngsters know of Couchsurfing. I first heard about it through <a href="http://www.cinetrance.com/" target="_blank">Anya</a>, an in-the-flesh friend I met through the internet (about seven years ago via a harvard listserv on central asia, or siberia, or something). An anthropologist and intrepid traveler, I don&#8217;t think Anya has couchsurfed, but she talked about a male friend at <a title="Columbia University" href="http://columbia.edu/" target="_blank">Columbia U</a>. who liked to host people with great frequency, particularly young girls. Later I heard about it from other people who said that it was used largely to find a free place to stay. My first impressions were not great—certainly not ambassadorial—but I did sign up before my long trip to Australia, and met some people before I left New York. Like Servas, many couchsurfing hosts prefer to meet others for drinks or to show them their home town rather than to host them. This I did, and still do on occasion. I&#8217;ve met some great people. But really, for most, inviting anyone to stay in her home is a bit fraught. To invite perfect strangers? Who has the time?</p>
<p><a href="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/05/newyork_2004-05_regim_3.jpg" rel="lightbox[3503]"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-3538" src="http://kirtiklis.com/files/2011/05/newyork_2004-05_regim_3.jpg?w=300&amp;h=195" alt="" width="300" height="195" /></a>One&#8217;s attitude to this, like most social networking sites, can be a litmus test of personality. There <em>are </em>really lovely people on the site looking to meet locals where they travel, like I was sixteen years ago. Now? I don&#8217;t know. My travel style has changed, and I tend to go to places I already know people. If lovely people contact me, I do like to meet them, certainly. These people send a message about themselves and what they related to in my profile—i.e. why we might enjoying meeting one another. Oh yes, like a dating site, there are profiles, which does cause confusion (conflation) for some. There are others just looking for a free place to crash. They write carbon-copy form letters about themselves and seem not to have troubled themselves to read their potential host&#8217;s profile. These people I ignore. And there are others still who give the site the reputation that Anya&#8217;s friend lends it. Why Torin likes to call couchsurfing &#8220;<a title="climb down, yo" href="http://veneratedcoconut.com/2011/05/26/climb-down-yo/">The Global Hookup Party</a>.&#8221; This we will talk about more. Next time.</p>
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